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Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:57 pm
by iank
Finished Masque. Never quite reaches being a great story, but still a good one.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:17 am
by Ludders
Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror

This was the last thing I watched before we moved house a couple of weeks or so back, and I've already completely forgotten it, bar the vaguest of memories that tell me I've seen it. It was basically as boring as fuck. 0/10


The Greatest Show in the Galaxy

This is still not great Who, but it's getting closer to it than any McCoy story so far, bar Remembrance.
It's got some atmosphere to it, even if it's let down a bit by some of the guest cast, and the fact that McCoy's Doctor comes over a bit of a pussy at times. The fact that Sylv is a bit limited and sounds like Kermit the frog every time he has to shout, doesn't help.
But I'd say this was a notch up on Silver Nemesis, mainly because I like the slightly surreal atmosphere to it. And Sylv works well as the Doctor in the more thoughtful scenes rather than the action ones. I'd give it 6/10.
All in all, S25 is definitely more than step up from S24. It's definitely starting to feel more like Who again.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:33 pm
by The Sevenfold Man
I’ve said this before but Greatest Show might just be my favourite McCoy story. Partly because it’s, retrospectively, a massive piss take of nuwho.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:01 pm
by The Sevenfold Man
The Moonbase

After two rather average stories things get back on track. Moonbase is a wonderful story and Troughton is a joy to watch, though the story doesn’t lend itself to his more manipulative side we do however get a much better look at the Second Doctor’s investigative skills here. Jamie comes more into his own here but sadly it means Ben and Polly get pushed further and further from relevancy. Ben in particular, even with Jamie stuck a hospital bed.

You can also see this is the prototype for the base under siege stories this era would become known for.

While it did seem a bit soon to bring back the Cybermen, they are so changed from the Tenth Planet the story gets away with it. The new, more streamlined design, now purely artificial voice and even more coldly logical nature make them far more scary. It’s easy to see how this episode was what made them a icon of the show.

The animated episodes are some of the best I’d seen up till this point besides Power of the Daleks

8/10

The Macra Terror

This was my first time watching this reconstruction and I was very impressed. Why still in the same style, it’s a strong improvement over Power, though there are still some limitations.

Story wise Macra Terror is much stronger then I think it’s ever been given credit for and the fact that it was the story with dodgy giant crabs overshadowed that fact also. The Second Doctor is allowed to use the fully range if his character here, cosmic tramp, the scientist, the directive and the manipulator.

It’s pretty clear by now that Polly and Ben are on their way out. The fact that Ben is turned into an antagonist and never really gets a chance to apologise for what happened shows that the writers were leaning in Jamie’s favour. Polly again has little to do here. It’s a real shame as both of the characters had potential based on the War Machines, Tenth Planet and the Highlanders.

What really boosts helps here is the animated Macra. They are just so superior to the model that was original used, both in look and moments that it almost feels unfair to compare them. While I would prefer to have the original episodes and would like them to remain as close to that as possible, this reconstruction is a clear example that not all change is bad. Buy improving on the Macra and there scenes the story feels noticeably elevated.

9/10

The Faceless Ones

Again my first time watching the reconstruction, as well as my first time ever listening to this story.

A side note, I watched both this and Macra Terror in black & white and with original episodes.

While the animation is still really good it’s limited by its setting. Gatwick Airport dose not lend itself to imaginative artistic design after all. The best parts are it’s redesigns of the plan flying into space and the chameleon’s space station. I will also say that said animated chameleons may not look as good as the real life originals either.

The story of the Faceless Ones is good but feels a little to long for its own good, or at least too much time is spent in Gatwick. Cutting down to five episodes or having the latter two episodes set on the space station might have improved the story’s pacing.

With Ben and Polly being taken out of the story for large chunks of time Jamie is able have more time focused on him. He’s at his most fleshed out since joining and is easily the most interesting companion since Viki left.

Sadly Ben and Polly really get the shaft here. While none near as disrespectful (and deserved) as Dodo’s, there goodbye lacks the gravitas it should. That said at lease Troughton send them of with a cool line of dialog.

Troughton is as amazing as he’s been in the last two stories.

7/10

Blink

Ok so despite swearing off nuwho for good I decided to watch Blink again. Why? Well despite my conviction that the show is utter trash, especially now, I have not watched anything in a few years. So a little part of me wanted vindication of my opinion that yes it’s all bloody terrible for the most part. I’d watched a review of season one, which did help but didn’t quit scratch that annoying itch. So I watched Blink on Netflix

Blink was an episode I had originally like and while overhyped it is one of nuwho best showings.

And boy was I vindicated.

While the Weeping Angels still are and will always be a great monster, the story has mostly lost its magic for me. Especially after binging classic who.

For starters it’s way to short. It feels like a novel adaptation that’s jumping to key points through the story. It amazes me just how fast we fly by things and never give them time to develop. Why is Sally wondering round an old house? She says she likes old things and they make her feel sad but that’s very ill defined. How did she learn about this place? it have a place in local folklore? How long have the angels lived there? Is it just a trap for the Doctor?

There’s so much more that could be done here and they can’t because of time constraints.

That also affects the character. Apart from Sally they all feel like generic people you could find in any other show, and Sally herself, as I’ve already said, is developed more but still ill defined.

Then there’s the tacked on humour. In a one episode horror story like this you need to keep building tension right the way through in my opinion. Your audience is not going to get warn out in such a short space of time. It also feels out of place with Martha and the Doctor making jokes about a situation that is pretty dire, even when they know they are going to get out of it.

Then there’s the fact that this is a paradox episode meaning we know how it’s going to end before we even finish

A rushed story with good ideas but nuwho crap.

3/10

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm
by Ludders
Fugitive of the Judoon

So apparently there's a convenient, previously unheard of incarnation of 'The Doctor' (honest), who just happens to be a black female. (Yeah, right) Oh and... Barrowman.
The score for this shit is obviously: Barrowman. :lol:

Battlefield

McCoy gets to do lots of shouting. Not good. :lol:
Despite the nonsense plot, and some appalling acting, I find hard to hate this one. In spite of all the naff bits, at least if feels like Dr Who. The highlight for me is Jean Marsh's performance as Morgaine. At much as it slips over into 'camp', there's an icy edge to her portrayal that makes it work. And also, it's just nice to see the Brig again.
It's a long way from a classic, but I don't mind this one too much, A fairly watchable 6/10.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:09 pm
by Bertrand Marx
The Sevenfold Man wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:33 pm
I’ve said this before but Greatest Show might just be my favourite McCoy story. Partly because it’s, retrospectively, a massive piss take of nuwho.
It’s a meta-narrative inspired take of the series that doesn’t completely and utterly patronise the audience but instead opts for subtext and surrealism, contrary to NuWho’s tepid attempt to resort to postmodern irony in the frankly awful “Love and Monsters”.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 pm
by Rob Filth
Ludders wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm
Battlefield

McCoy gets to do lots of shouting. Not good. :lol:
Despite the nonsense plot, and some appalling acting, I find hard to hate this one. In spite of all the naff bits, at least if feels like Dr Who. The highlight for me is Jean Marsh's performance as Morgaine. At much as it slips over into 'camp', there's an icy edge to her portrayal that makes it work. And also, it's just nice to see the Brig again.
It's a long way from a classic, but I don't mind this one too much, A fairly watchable 6/10.
Boom? Boom. Boom? BOOM! BOOOOM!

THERE WILL BE NO BATTLE HERE!

Waiting for who? Waiting for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Elongated OTT laughing which goes on for a minute.

A lightbulb pops and they all scream.

A child looks up at the sky...speech.

Fuck me Ludders, obviously this is always going to score over NuWho Jodie dreck, but I think you're being very charitable with that mark there.

I guess 5 minutes of the Destroyer is good even if he doesn't do a lot more than stomp around rattling chains before doing a Hulk impersonation.

Even the Brig appears to be bored, looking at his watch every 5 minutes wondering what the fuck to do.

"Best get back to the pub I suppose"

Yup, fuck all else going on here.

I must admit this one is one of my least favourite Classic Series entries.

I'd even go so far as to commit total blasphemy and admit there's some NuWho episodes I prefer to this.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:25 pm
by Burunman
Rob Filth wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 pm
Ludders wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm
Battlefield

McCoy gets to do lots of shouting. Not good. :lol:
Despite the nonsense plot, and some appalling acting, I find hard to hate this one. In spite of all the naff bits, at least if feels like Dr Who. The highlight for me is Jean Marsh's performance as Morgaine. At much as it slips over into 'camp', there's an icy edge to her portrayal that makes it work. And also, it's just nice to see the Brig again.
It's a long way from a classic, but I don't mind this one too much, A fairly watchable 6/10.
Boom? Boom. Boom? BOOM! BOOOOM!

THERE WILL BE NO BATTLE HERE!

Waiting for who? Waiting for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Elongated OTT laughing which goes on for a minute.

A lightbulb pops and they all scream.

A child looks up at the sky...speech.

Fuck me Ludders, obviously this is always going to score over NuWho Jodie dreck, but I think you're being very charitable with that mark there.

I guess 5 minutes of the Destroyer is good even if he doesn't do a lot more than stomp around rattling chains before doing a Hulk impersonation.

Even the Brig appears to be bored, looking at his watch every 5 minutes wondering what the fuck to do.

"Best get back to the pub I suppose"

Yup, fuck all else going on here.

I must admit this one is one of my least favourite Classic Series entries.

I'd even go so far as to commit total blasphemy and admit there's some NuWho episodes I prefer to this.
I've gone back and forth about Battlefield. It's okay in parts, has an interesting premise and gives the Brig a great send off blowing up the Destroyer (who is also well realised.) Also the bit where Morgaine kills the UNIT soldier is one of the most gruesome moments in the series.

That said it is very cringy in places. The worst bit is McCoy's speech to Morgaine, whilst Ace's boom is crap. I did like the Asian babe. Her Ace should have become a couple, though the bit where they fight is cringy in places too.

I often wondered Rob where you the one who wrote the Evil Sylvester McCoy Reviews that were featured on Stuff The Frankies video? :lol:

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:28 pm
by Burunman
Bertrand Marx wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:09 pm
The Sevenfold Man wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:33 pm
I’ve said this before but Greatest Show might just be my favourite McCoy story. Partly because it’s, retrospectively, a massive piss take of nuwho.
It’s a meta-narrative inspired take of the series that doesn’t completely and utterly patronise the audience but instead opts for subtext and surrealism, contrary to NuWho’s tepid attempt to resort to postmodern irony in the frankly awful “Love and Monsters”.
Did I tell you that the Whizz Kid was inspired by Chibbers? I think I brought it up in a previous thread. JNT was incredibly bitter about the Open Air interview and that character was him venting his frustrations. It wasn't just Chibbers, but he was kind of the figure head.

Re: What Doctor who DVDs are you watching today?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:21 am
by Ludders
Rob Filth wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:45 pm
Ludders wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm
Battlefield

McCoy gets to do lots of shouting. Not good. :lol:
Despite the nonsense plot, and some appalling acting, I find hard to hate this one. In spite of all the naff bits, at least if feels like Dr Who. The highlight for me is Jean Marsh's performance as Morgaine. At much as it slips over into 'camp', there's an icy edge to her portrayal that makes it work. And also, it's just nice to see the Brig again.
It's a long way from a classic, but I don't mind this one too much, A fairly watchable 6/10.
Boom? Boom. Boom? BOOM! BOOOOM!

THERE WILL BE NO BATTLE HERE!

Waiting for who? Waiting for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Elongated OTT laughing which goes on for a minute.

A lightbulb pops and they all scream.

A child looks up at the sky...speech.

Fuck me Ludders, obviously this is always going to score over NuWho Jodie dreck, but I think you're being very charitable with that mark there.

I guess 5 minutes of the Destroyer is good even if he doesn't do a lot more than stomp around rattling chains before doing a Hulk impersonation.

Even the Brig appears to be bored, looking at his watch every 5 minutes wondering what the fuck to do.

"Best get back to the pub I suppose"

Yup, fuck all else going on here.

I must admit this one is one of my least favourite Classic Series entries.

I'd even go so far as to commit total blasphemy and admit there's some NuWho episodes I prefer to this.
Yeah, I can see all the faults, but at the same time I find it tolerable. Maybe the trick is to watch JodiePu first. :lol: