Ainley's Master at his worst was just a rather dull villain forced into a story that didn't really need him. All long running villains go through a period like that. There are many Joker stories where he is just generic bad guy.The Sevenfold Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:27 amBloody hell, it’s like picking between vomit, shit or puss.
Simm’s Master comes off as a being written by someone who has heard of the Master and his characteristics, but never watched a single episode of the classic series. All of the finer points of the character and his relationship with the Doctor seem to have been lost of Fathead. There is not one moment we’re I view this Master as charismatic or truly intelligent, but the latter part is just NuWho’s writing in a nutshell.
Major souring point is the whole Drums thing. It like the Master became the test subject for all the ideas these hack writers wanted to use on the Doctor. In this case, taking away all responsibility and agency for their former actions.
Gomez’s Missy is pretty much the Anti-Master and sums up pretty much all of NuWho Writing. Firstly she can only work in the sense of all the Master’s agency being lost during FatHeads run. Without all her sins handwaved away, there is zero way even the braying herd that NuWho panders to would accept Missy and the Doctor’s relationship. What’s worse is that she is still doing dispicable acts and we are just supposed to forgive her because... why? Because Doctor says she can change? In spite of all she dose prior to her death!? Because the Master now has a vagina? Piss off!
Also, as many have already pointed out, Missy displays vertically none of the Master’s character.
As for Dhawan, I have never watched an episode Chinballs era so I cannot comment proper but from the clips I’ve seen, were just back to Simm problems with the character. He’s over the top, uncharismatic and unconvincing intelligent. His only stand out sin is being part of the Timeless Child crap. And maybe that’s his biggest flaw, the weakest of the three.
To describe him I’d say “you are such a failure that even in a competition for failing you somehow come second, because even that victory is beyond you”.
You know something’s gone horrible wrong when Ainley’s Master at his worst is still better then these three NuMasters.
You forgive them as these stories don't ruin the character, and eventually a writer who really likes or at least gets the character will come along and do a good story with them, like Killing Joke, or Survival.
What happened to the Master in New Who is quite unique. I have never seen a villain destroyed quite so completely and utterly and the fanbase being so spineless as to go along with it.
Again Jared Leto's Joker was enough for Batman fans to riot. My god I would kill for a version of the Master that was like Jared IE just a generic but faithful version. That's several steps up from Pissy Missy.
And yes the idea that anyone would ship the Master and the Doctor is laughable. The monster has destroyed billions of planets, but eh he likes some of the same things as the Doctor. They can both sit down and listen to Beatles albums together? It reminds me of in Red Dwarf when they find out that their future selves have befriended the Hitlers.
"Provided you don't talk politics they're an absolute hoot."
Missy was an atrocious villain all around however, not just in regards to the Master.
What does she actually bring to the series? She doesn't challenge the hero at any point. She fails as an archenemy. In her first story she is beaten by a no thanks, in her second she just prances around like a moron, and in her third she has to be rescued and then is reduced to the Doctor and her earlier selves sidekick.
She has no memorable dialogue and confrontations with the hero. Her scenes with him consist of flirting and cringey double entendres.
She doesn't accomplish anything as a villain either. She kills ONE Asthmatic fangirl, and even then she only accomplishes that, not through cunning, but by gaining new superpowers. (Like being able to teleport around the room and without explanation, and putting her handcuffs around the room without explanation.) Best of all people loved said fangirl so much that they had to undo that the next year, and said fangirl has now gone on to be a more recurring character across all forms of media since.
When Angelus killed Jenny Calender she stayed dead!
What else does she accomplish apart from that?
Furthermore she undermines the heroes morality as we've been over. (Now the Doctor thinks it's okay for more intelligent races to slaughter others. He has lost the moral high ground to the Daleks!)
Finally and this is the best of all, she is actually a sexist caricature of a female villain.
Missy drags us back to the 1940s where female villains could never truly be a threat to a male villain. IE women are weaker, less intelligent so of course we can't get a female villain like the Joker who threatens a man in the traditional way. She has to use her womanly wiles to confuse him. Also it's not like women have any grand motives beyond being with a man so that has to be her motive.
Added to that there's the fact that the male hero goes easier on her than the male villains because well you wouldn't expect a woman to be held accountable in the same way as a guy. Also women aren't really evil. They're so cute, if they find out how bad they've really been they'll start crying. Finally this villain will be ridiculously sexualized too.
This type of villain was seen as old hat by the 60s, hence why the Adam West Batman series took the piss out of it gloriously every week with the villains henchwoman, despite being evil, being sent to the Wayne foundation for delinquent girls (nothing dodgy in that )
We'd come so far with Callisto, Drusilla, Glory, Servalan, Morgana in Merlin, Alti, Faith, The Rani all being proper, powerful, three dimensional villains, whose stories didn't just revolve around the main heroes dick and had grand, powerful ambitions like the Joker and Davros. (Okay all of these villains were sexy, but nothing wrong with that, as long as they aren't just a fantasy of the writer.)
Okay you do still get some femme fatales like Darla in Angel, but even then she does have other motives besides being with Angel, and Angel does at least fight her, sets her on fire, promises to kill her after she bites Cordelia etc.
Missy however to start with has NO motives besides being with the male hero. Even fucking Catwoman had other plans besides being with Batman. He also goes ridiculously easy on her, (kissing her after she has vaporized Osgood and seemingly killed Kate.) She more or less gets sent to the Wayne foundation for delinquent girls in S10 and gets all weepy compared to the male Master.
Also she is ridiculously sexualized the way that every word out of her mouth is an innuendo "show a bad girl how it's done." "I do traps, traps are my way of flirting." The way she is all over the male hero, and the way her male predecessor gets a big boner at being threatened by her.
Hey check out the dialogue between Callisto from Xena and Missy and tell me which one seems more old fashioned.
The sight, just the sight of Xena,Warrior Princess arguing on my behalf amuses me so let me tell you. Let me answer your question of what I would do if you let me go. You let me go and I will dedicate my life to killing everything you've loved. Your friends, your family...Your reputation, even your horse. You see, I am being so honest with you because the idea of your pity is worse than death for me. You see, you created a monster with integrity, Xena. Scary, isn't it? Now, take me to the mob.
DOCTOR: Clara. Clara. Clara. I've got to get Clara!
(The Doctor runs to the lift door.)
MISSY: Oh, Clara, Clara, Clara! You know I should shoot you in a jealous rage. Now, wouldn't that be sexy? I've turned the lift off, though.
But hey MIssy is better for women in the genre than Callisto because she took a role away from men. And that ladies and gentlemen is what leads to Jodie's gurning, squeaky voiced bubble light, dismissing people who are scared of cancer coming back, and telling us not to shoot man eating spiders, similarly being held up by bigoted morons as a good thing for women because it takes away a role from men too.